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Caught on tape: Shots fired, store owners fight back during robbery

A Logan Square shop owner and his family members fought for their lives last night during an armed robbery which was caught on tape.

62-year-old  Louis Quizhpe  was shot at nine times by a man trying to rob him.  He was hit once in the right inner thigh, the bullet barely missing an artery.

Two African American men came into Louis’ souvenir shop in  the 2200 block of N Western Ave looking for cash.  One of the men pulled a gun on his Louis’s nephew while the other walked behind the counter to get to the register.

The gunchi-surveillance-video-man-injured-in-logan-square-robberyman fired at Louis but shot his accomplice accidentally in the upper body.

Louis grabbed a bat and started swinging as the gunman continued to fire.

Louis hit the gun wielding robber several times in the upper body and the head. His brother-in-law threw a stool and then a fire extinguisher at the suspects.

The men are reportedly in their 40′s, one about 5’10″ with a gray goatee.  The other is 6’1 or 6’2 and walked with a limp.

No one is in custody at this time.

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353 Comments to “Caught on tape: Shots fired, store owners fight back during robbery”

    Eric said:
    April 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    We need legislature to ban bats!

    jbob said:
    April 11, 2013 at 2:17 AM

    HOW did this ever happen??? Handguns are ILLEGAL in Chicago!!!!! Didn't the crooks know that????

    Mitch said:
    April 11, 2013 at 2:43 AM

    IT IS IMMORAL….INHUMAN….EVEN WICKED TO NOT ALLOW THESE HARD WORKING PEOPLE TO HAVE THE MEANS TO MATCH THE SCUM OF THE STREETS! If they had died because the shooter was more calm their blood would be on the heads of the libofascists who run Chicago. How dare they leave the population there so helpless! This was sheer luck… Tell me you moronic so called "liberals" (gag)…how much good would a call to the cops done them? Anyone who denies innocents the means to protect their lives and property is an imbecile or a fascist…perhaps both.

    lda said:
    April 11, 2013 at 2:51 AM

    Just a family trying to make ends meet, and the usual suspects lay violence, attempted murder, and robbery on them. Let's quit worrying about law abiding citizens owning guns and start addressing a black culture that promotes victimhood, dependency, fatherless homes, rage, bitterness, hopelessness, and entitlement. It's ugly and getting worse. Where's the societal safety measures from the Obama administration?

    gellero said:
    April 11, 2013 at 2:58 AM

    Description of the subjects:………….everything but the RACE of the 'usual suspects'.

    Too bad the shopkeepers weren't ARMED with pistols to rid your city of this vermin.

    Martin said:
    April 11, 2013 at 3:08 AM

    If they had only placed a DHS approved "THIS IS A NO FIREARM ZONE" sign on their door this would have never happened.

    fly4vino said:
    April 11, 2013 at 3:36 AM

    This is one of the bravest and luckiest guys in the world. It's also a preview of you defending your family from murderers and rapists after you have been disarmed. The unintended consequence of disarming law abiding citizens is that whits wlll pull further away from blacks.

    Too few blacks understand that crime is the primary force that separates the races. Take Chicago as an example as it has a population of approximately 1/3 white, black and hispanic. Blacks and hispanics comprise something like 95% of the murder victims and an even greater percent of the perps. Whites commit less than 5% of the murders.

    The obsession with "assault rifles" ignores the reality that rifles are seldom used to commit crimes. In Chicago out of nearly 500 murders only 1 was committed with a rifle. The emphasis should be on the 499 murders, but the one is better political theater.

    It's more than just the color of the skin. The Chicago murder report notes that murder is very closely correlated to drug and gang activities. Those who say that drugs are a victimless crime live in a fantasyland. Unfortunately too many of todays black entertainers works glorify the use of drugs , gangs and violence. It's a far cry from the entertainers of the past whose works inspired the entire nation and enhanced its social conscience.

    If Obama is successful in disarming law abiding citizens many businesses in the inner city will close, further aggravating the economic plight of the area. The vast majority of self proclaimed black leaders have abandoned the message of self improvement and responsibility as the foundation for economic , social and family progress.

    My guess is that after looking at the tapes of this the owner of the store or his wife will either arm themselves or depart.

    DTaylor said:
    April 11, 2013 at 3:37 AM

    If the shop owners can't keep a handgun legally (should they decide to continue abiding by the law after this incident), they should pick up a couple of axes to keep at hand.

    WesS said:
    April 11, 2013 at 4:10 AM

    If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Not sure what the storeowner was armed with but a pistol would have been more effective

    Gary said:
    April 11, 2013 at 4:16 AM

    How did they know they were "african americans" by just looking at the video? Have they been Caught and asked their nationality?
    If not, they could have been African, or Jamaican or French. Hey, maybe they were just "blacks".
    In the OJ trial, the limo driver said that he saw "a black man walking across the lawn". The Prosecuter, Marcia Whats-her-name said, "so he was African American?". He answered, "how would I know that?". (political correctness gone stupid.) Same here.

    contrarian said:
    April 11, 2013 at 5:56 AM

    The store owner acted with incredible bravery as the one armed thug came back repeatedly trying to kill him. And how outrageous that MA has stripped its law-abiding citizens of their right to bear arms. Once again, in restrictive states like NY, NJ, IL, CA, and MA, it's only the criminals and police who have the guns. And it's only the criminals who are on the scene.

    CCW said:
    April 11, 2013 at 5:57 AM

    Glad that the store owners will be ok… But you get the Government that you deserve. You want concealed carry? Vote the libs/socialists out!

    Joey Peeps said:
    April 11, 2013 at 6:05 AM

    There is only one way to deal with this and it's been around since time began. You fight fire with fire and eliminate these low-life dirtbag brush apes from society.

    WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS.

    Feech LaManna said:
    April 11, 2013 at 6:16 AM

    The glaring abject stupidity of liberals is evidenced here. Is the cause of this a people problem or a gun problem?

    If the store owner had been armed and killed the scumbag this wouldn't have made page 54.

    Emily said:
    April 11, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    Oh my god! We was just there few days ago, the owner is so nice. He had to buzzed them in cause its not open you have to get buzzed in, I can't believe this happened to him. He's a really nice man. I hope he's ok and recovers well. In shock may god bless him and his family

    Shaking My Head said:
    April 11, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    Dumbest criminals caught on tape!!
    It is outrageous that animals like that are running the streets!!
    Thank God the clown shooting could not hit anybody but his idiot partner in crime, its too bad the owner did not have an full size aluminum bat to crack his head like an eggshell.

    contrarian said:
    April 11, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    The store owner acted with incredible bravery as the one armed thug came back repeatedly trying to kill him.

    Martientje said:
    April 12, 2013 at 3:17 AM

    Those kind of people makes me so MAAAAAAAD !! lock them up & never be free again !!!! Ruin others lives…try to get a job and earn ur own money instead of robbing those poor hard working people !!

    maddmen24 said:
    April 13, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    things like this.been going on since i was young.now im 38.things just are getting worst in chicago.not better.after all my friends were murdered.i had to go.enough was enough.ive seen people killed..baby shot.i even told the police who did it..i even pick the person out in a line up.you no what they did.they tell the perp family my name.now keep in mind.my name was suppose to be anoymous.only the police suppose of known my name.so days pass.my chid mother come to me and say.why i tell the police on her brother.im like what.she says she sent my name on a possible winess list.so i had to tell the truth yes i did and why.after 5yrs her return.now we beefing over what i thought was right thing to do.was summ what the wrong thing to do.SO GET OUTTA CHICAGO….while u can..

    TK1 said:
    April 13, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Most bar/liquor store owners in Chicago have a gun and/or basbeall bat under the bar/counter and have operated this way for years. The mom and pop retail stores need to take the same approach regardless of the bullsh*t gun laws in Chicago. You better believe that this shop owner will be well armed the next time and the one idiot robber who wanted to kill him by re-attacking him multiple times may come back again. Regardless of your politics or personal beliefs, gun crime will not stop until and unless thugs have to think about whether their potential victim is armed or not.

    TK1 said:
    April 13, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Concealed gun laws will not fully solve the problem. Instead we all need (by our own personal choice) to be able to carry and visibly display our weapon. Or, if you choose to conceal it, that's fine too. Either way, the criminals will know that they may be retaliated against. And, when potential victims display their weapons, the criminals WILL "think" before they attack, because it's very obvious that they may be in a gunfight with a more skilled shooter and they have the chance of losing their life if they decide to challenge. Call this scenario the Wild West if you like, but if you know something about history as opposed to what you see in the movies, you know that the Wild West was relatively safe and there were very few gunfights. Everyone had a weapon and they proudly and confidently displayed it.

    John C said:
    April 14, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    If Chicago only had a law that prevented people from owning guns, Oh wait they do. This is typical of draconian gun laws, only the bad guns have guns. I am a retired NYC detective and I can tell you gun laws don't work, they only disarm the victims, the innocent people. When will you people learn! The police can't be everywhere at once, you are the last line of defense for yourself and you family. A person who is going to risk committing a Robbery or a Murder for which they can receive a 20 plus year sentence, or in some cases the death penalty, don't give a damb about gun laws! The only people restrictive gun laws help are the criminals, who have an easier time committing a crime against an unarmed person, and the politicians who can pretend to be doing something while they are actually making things worse by making it easier for the criminal to commit crimes with their irresponsible gun laws. These laws are an out and out violation of the United States Constitution. You people need to demand that the government follow the Constitution before they take the rest of your rights away.

    Demarcus said:
    April 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM

    Really?

    Fed up said:
    April 10, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    I didn't. I'm an educated man, so I just put 2 and 2 together.

    ArmBears said:
    April 10, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Because they public needs to be made aware that if they see an African American male limping about, he may be the suspect in the crime? Yeah?

    bobanmebrudder said:
    April 10, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    It's time they started to report a better description of the robbers. Next time they should have a weapon on the premises: Oh I forgot, Chicago is against the GOOD PEOPLE HAVING WEAPONS,

    Peter Marcus said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    why do you hate facts?

    Identify yourself said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Yes they did. That could be a HUGE factor in identifying them!!! DUH.

    Speer Chukker said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    True, I just assume it's a Negro.

    john deluna said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    So we can celebrate Louis kicking their butts. I guess big black guys are not as tough as they want us to believe. It also helps in identifying the them if you see them on the streets.

    gwbnyc said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Because it's the truth and the above is reporting.

    Keven said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    The video shows them to be black so what other race would they be called?

    Controse said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Why not?

    Mike said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    The same reason people need to know their height, age, and other appearance characteristics that are mentioned in the report.

    JimmyD said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Because in every American city, the perpetrators of violent crime (especially gun crime) are overwhelmingly African American. They should not be protected by political correctness. African Americans who are not criminal need to ostracize those who are; otherwise they suffer unduly because of the correct perception that African Americans commit violent crime out of all proportion their percentage of the population.

    Eddie said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    You're right…..after so many of these robberies and the track record of who's committing them ..why bother mentioning race..it's a given ! Or…you can always check the ratios of races in prison. People lie..numbers don't !

    Pasty White Guy. said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Maybe because attempted murder , attempted robbery (along with many other things….) these thugs are guilty of in this short clip are actually criminal offenses. Since they are not currently in custody, I would certainly hope that the most accurate description of the perpetrators would be disseminated, which yes, would include race, regardless of what it may be. I suspect you would not be offended if this same news story reported them as white males, not black. Me, I don't care about skin colour. All of societies trash should be locked up regardless of colour. These guys included. Attempted or succsessful, anyone willing to kill another person for a little bit of cash doesn't deserve to see the sun rise again. Race doesn't enter the equation in my world. Sorry it does yours.

    JOSHUA said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    BECAUSE WE CAN'T USE THE N WORD.

    DB1 said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Like no one could have figured that out on their own.

    Guest said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Why not? Black on white/Asian crime is systematically being covered up by the main-stream media.

    rmls34 said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    Unless you are born in Africa, you are simply just "black".

    CPT Obvious said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Because 80-90% of crime in Chicago is committed by African Americans! DUH!!!

    Common Sense said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    You're right. They were just American. Bad Americans.

    anon said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    well, because statistically African Americans commit crimes?

    Rich said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    This is a lie

    Its illegal to own a gun in Chicago

    /sarc

    Mary Lou said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Ug, hate that term "African American" – contradictory isn't it? American refers to a person's current citizenship versus ethnicity – for a description of appearance it should just be black, white, Asian, etc.

    Bob Richards said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    As they said on Dragnet, long ago. "Just the facts, mam, just the facts." I'm glad to know it wasn't a white man or a Mexican.

    I once read a news story on air where I said that two Mexicans in a low riding Chevy robbed a liquor store…

    Alistener called and complained. He asked I how I knew they were Mexicans. they could have been Filipino. "Driving a low-riding Chevy," I asked. He hung up.

    David from San Diego said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Because the perpetrators remain at large, a physical description is warranted.

    Guest said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Because it takes out any conjecture and confirms the usual

    Mel said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Uh…so the police would know who they were looking for. Seriously?? Someone from Chicago, the Murder capitol of the world would ask that question

    Mark said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    No, it was obvious. I could ve guessed it when I read the headlines. This goes along with the same thugs that go tearing up stores…..same thing!

    KANT said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    I would have preferred to use the term "black", or neggra.

    PayingAttention said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Hell, why not. They were. Does it offend you that they were or just that someone verbalized the fact?

    brassia said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    You are right! It is rather obvious without even mentioning…99.9% of the time, isn't it????
    Why , are you one of those thugs as well?

    George R. Horn said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Why is giving a description of the scumbags such a bad idea, they sure as hell weren't Caucasian, or Asian or Hispanic. Your question makes me think you would like to turn this into a race thing, so be it why is it that most of the violent crime nowadays appears to be done by Blacks? Care to address that issue, hell I live in the East NY area of NY in a primarily Black area and Black on Black crime is over the top.

    Americanfreedom said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Like you couldnt tell from the video that they wer African American DUHHHH

    Phil Ohio said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    You are right……you just know. No need to be told, right?

    Mark said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Because it is one of the identifying characteristics of the robbers who I assume are on the loose. Why was it mentioned that one had a white goatee and one walked with a limp? Maybe so a member of the public will be able to identify these losers on the street.

    shakedowncrews said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    It didn't need to be stated, we could have guessed almost immediately.

    Casey said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Why do you think you moron? How would we know what they look like and who to look for if we don't know their description? You liberals are amazing.

    James cottle said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    African American..a kind word in this instance

    Realist said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    You're right, why would anyone need to know they were black. Or even that they were male, their height, possibly age and known injuries.
    The media must be getting less PC and more racist by accurately describing suspects of an armed robbery/attempted murder.

    RonSpectre said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Because we cant keep sweeping the statistics under the rug THATS why! The majority of inner city crime is black on black with young black men being the highest percentage of perps. LIke it or not, Black Americans have problem in their house! And its NOT the fault of White Americans! I am tired of that old line. If you want to blame it on anyone, blame it on the Liberal Democrats who have kept Black Americans in a hole from which they cannot climb out for decades. THEY are the target, not store owners! THEY are the ones to whom you owe your circumstance, NOT neighborhood store owners trying to eke out a living.
    You cannot solve a problem without knowing WHO is committing the crimes.. So too bad if you think its racist. The truth is not racist. Facts are not racist.
    Deal with it.

    The Rukh said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    Criminals come in all shapes, sizes & colors. Let's not get sidetracked by racist rhetoric; the problem is…they're criminals & the government is depriving the citizens of their God-given right to armed self-defense.

    Guest said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    It is relevant for crime statistics
    They are 12% of the population and commit 60% of the violent crime and 80% of the murders

    When people finally acknowledge that something is dreadfully wrong in the blak community then something might be done to improve the situation

    Covering it up is like putting a bandaid on a melanoma

    JohnHick50 said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    I suppose you also want the media to blur out the suspects in these videos so we can't see their skin color.

    bill said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    Hey Chicagoan we are fed up with 49 to 1 black on white crime. This "you can´t mention the race of the perps" thing has us white people fed up-we are on the receiving end of the NEW KKK -black people victimizing whites.

    What part of racial discrimination and abuse dont you get?

    Eclectic Infidel said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Because the facts are important and as the video feed shows, the criminals are, in fact, African American. I think it is always appropriate to state, when known, the assailants race, approximate age, gender and so on. When it comes to crime, political correctness has no place.

    winston cornwall said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    You mean we all should have known without being told or
    you mean it's beside the point when police are asking the public to help try to find the perps?

    purple person said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    why hide the fact they are purple people?

    Barry said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Everyone wants to be known by where they are supposedly from. Irish American, Asian American, Native American and even African American. Except when they commit a crime…then it's racist. You putz.

    Don said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Because in Chicago it always seems to be more common to see crimes involving firearms being committed by blacks.

    DSC said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    I know, isn't it just too awful that the news should report the facts about the race of the perps. We wouldn't want anyone to think that black people do these types of things, would we? How about the part where the story states: "no one is in custody at this time." Perhaps we should all be on the lookout for old white guys, or Asians, or women, or anyone but black males? We'd have a far better chance of apprehending the actual guilty duo if we did, wouldn't we?

    MariettaGator said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Exactly what part of Africa are they from?

    radtec said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    sorta helps 'describe' the robbers dontchya think? What good is it to tell the general public to be on the look out for 'two men', approx X feet tall?

    JapesMacfarland said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Every time it's a white who acts the evil fool in doing something like this, their so called 'race' is mentioned. Near never is it pointed out, though, if the person is black. That's because the Left uses the perceived minority status of blacks, to capitalize on compassion for power. We see how well they've done for the black community, now that the Left has near 100% controlled these communities, education and families for over forty years now! ;)

    Boise said:
    April 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    So they can catch them…

    Not Racist White Man said:
    April 10, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Where did you get your statistics?

    LOLatU said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Where did you get your grammatical education?

    Michael Valentine said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    Please, please tell me you're trolling!.

    Elmo said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Yes if the store owner had a gun , the armed robber would be dead and deservedly so. He was lucky the robber was probably high and could not make a shot. Unfortunately for this store owner these thugs will be back, not to rob he tor but to kill him. I hope he would have a gun by then

    tonytexas said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    The shop owner was extremely lucky to not be dead…..Your an idiot for thinking you can face a gun wielding criminal with a bat and win…….i have ever stared down the barrel of a loaded gun in the hands of an idiot criminal…..you realize real quick that your life is over by a simple flinch of a finger….It's the most helpless feeling in the word……your girlfriend kidnapped from you side, raped and left for dead…..did gun control stop that? would any gun control law stop any gun crime committed by these idiot criminals? NO! After that happened I went through a background check, purchased a handgun, took NRA classes on gun safety and use. Applied for and was granted a conceal carry permit….I will never be victimized again, no one will ever drag away my wife and rape her as I stand helplessly….You live in a freaking bubble…You obviously don't live or work in south Chicago or any of the other crime ridden areas of the United States……Go be a lamb led in slaughter if you want…I won't ever be in that situation again…..

    Odd said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Timbers

    writerronlewis said:
    April 10, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    LOL, "grammatical education." If you're thinking about quitting your day job to become a grammatical educator, you might reconsider.

    westcoastpatriette said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Jack 100% correct! I will put this caveat in for you when you wrote: "ONE DAY AFRO AMERICAN THEY WILL START killing everybody on the street…"
    Jack, trust me — THEY won't get very far in that kind of effort if it ever came to be!

    sad but true said:
    April 10, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    National numbers according to Dept of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics, black Americans murder other people at a rate 8 times that of white Americans.

    This ratio has been very constant for decades.

    the stats said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Statistics show that more than half of all violent crimes are committed by blacks, yet they make up only 13% of the population and that figure includes black children

    Mark Lastname said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    No it isn't, you just need a FOID card from the state and should (but don't have to by law) follow certain guidelines it states. It's illegal to conceal ur weapon in public but that will be changing too soon…

    Perfectly fine to own guns in Chicago. We own 5.

    Rudolf said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    WHAT IS "TIMBERS"?

    Wisconsinite said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    That's funny

    moron said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Chicago at the top. How racist is stating that?

    moron said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Thought Chicago prohibited guns! How did these bad guys get guns, the good guys without guns! We need to outlaw guns so no good citizens get guns! Barry O

    brassia said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Yea, and the FGOUSA today supported the gun bill just because there is so much gun violence in her own town of Chicago! Makes lot of sense, doesn't it?…Just like everything the DESTROYER-In-Chief is doing for our country

    idunno said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Because they don't agree with what I think??

    Sound&Fury said:
    April 10, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    I dunno. Just a lucky hunch, or statistical probability. Take your pick…

    brassia said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    I do hope they had complete background check ( like it says in a new gun bill) before they obtained their weapons!…end of sarc….

    Realist said:
    April 10, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    All I had to do was read the title to get a description of what these guys looked like

    Paul davis said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    How bout a background check on eric holder. Barry just keeps him around to keep everyone from noticing how stupid pelosi is

    Don said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    The problem would be far less if people would have quit voting for these idiot Liberals in this country, especially in Cities like Chicago and Detroit at least 30 years ago.

    Dave said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    I think the point is that ome's posts are really hard to read and, therefore, understand. It's not the grammar but the content and word usage that makes it hard to follow.

    writerronlewis said:
    April 10, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Obviously, but did you get my point?

    jgoss said:
    April 11, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Because severe indoctrination and social engineering has created a false perception of this vile race.

    Looking4Sanity said:
    April 11, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Simpletons always ask simple questions. It's their defining quality. Good luck with that, loser.

    Roger said:
    April 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Have you considered just ignoring rumors against Christians?
    Wee, that comment really was the type a small little man would make. One that perhaps doesn't have any visible neck…?

    onepornqueen said:
    April 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Of course I have; why do you think I so seldom reply to you?

    Roger said:
    April 12, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    As a muslim loyal kind of person you still seem to want to impose your values on me.
    Is that what people call a double standard perhaps?

    WTE said:
    April 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    i am too old for your taste.

    Roger said:
    April 14, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Have you considered moderating your advocacy for the most violent solution to every situation?

    Roger said:
    April 14, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    You're probably just still that angry 18 year old inside that got locked up for going to a wrong party with way too much alcohol.

    WTE said:
    April 14, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Nope. You're still angry at your drunk dad for dumping booze down your throat

    Roger said:
    April 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    I'm not the one advocating for violence and jihad.

    24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
    The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

    Roger said:
    April 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    See, you're just an angry child inside.

    WTE said:
    April 14, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    You're projecting again

    WTE said:
    April 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    But you advocate for dropping bombs on southern cities

    Roger said:
    April 14, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Of course not, and my quoting you doesn't mean I agree with it, just that I wanted to bring attention to what you said.

    Roger said:
    April 14, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    That was your quote, and denying now is a bit late.

    Roger said:
    April 14, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    That is your agenda, and I explained that.

    Every time you rant and rave like this thread you prove I was correct too.

    WTE said:
    April 15, 2013 at 8:54 AM

    You're a liar

    Roger said:
    April 15, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Quote me or you own me an apology.

    You have positions that look for the most violent solution to almost every problem. Even summary executions of some suspects before trial. Attacking that is the decent thing to do.

    Roger said:
    April 15, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    I don't have too, with your volatile temper I don't need to. You just say the darndest things.

    Roger said:
    April 15, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Where on that thread does it exclude muslim loyal trolls such as yourself?

    WTE said:
    April 15, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    You lie all the time, I don't have a temper

    WTE said:
    April 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    Again with the lies. I am not a muslium loyal troll. YOU said what you said and can't deny it or change the context like you want.That is your second lie you told today

    WTE said:
    April 15, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Roger 168p • 49 minutes agoAttacking you for just about anything is the only decent thing to do.So you will attack me for just aboutanything? Walking across the street is enough for you to declare jihad on me.

    Roger said:
    April 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    When you advocate for violence attacking that position is a decent thing to do.

    Wee, you don't realize how your pro violence sharia loyalty is out of mainstream in the western thinking US.

    Roger said:
    April 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Of course not. Wee, what happened to your days shift at the work terminal? Are you so lame they bumped you to posting at night now?

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