2 women killed after SUV plunges off overpass in Lyons

Police in the western suburbs are investigating an accident that killed two women.

37-year-old Michelle Miranda and 36-year-old Sandra Frankum died Saturday when their car crashed on Harlem Ave in Lyons.

The vehicle plunged at least 50 feet from Harlem to Canal Bank Drive in neighboring Forest View.

Illinois State Police are assisting Lyons Police in the investigation.

205 comments

  • sad

    This is heartbreaking, no matter who, how, when…can’t bring Michelle or Sandra back. As for Lisa, she survived but will forever be in pain for the rest of her life. I hope all the families can find peace in their hearts to forgive, an unselfish act that God would expect in this unplanned tragedy among good friends.

  • anonymous

    It is so sad that some people can not leave these wonderful girls alone. Please let them RIP.

    I never knew how heartless peple can be and How judgemental some can be. This was a HORRIFIC tradgedy!!
    What ever happened to te saying if you cant say something nice then ay nothing at all.

    All I have to say is tht Heaven received two very specia angels.

  • Praying

    The speculation needs to stop. This is not the time nor the place. This is a tragedy and everyone is losing sight of the fact the 2 families are devastated – 4 children lost a mother who loved them more than anything and family members and friends are grieving. What happens in the dark ALWAYS comes to the light. And if any of this speculation is true, it will eventually come out. Right now everyone's concern should be for the families of the victims left behind. May these 2 women rest in eternal paradise and may their loved ones find comfort in the fact of how much they were loved by so many.

  • NightAngel

    As of yesterday Lisa did not have any amputations nor are they pending.She had no brain injury, nor brain bleed. What a miracle, she was never admitted into critical care.The shock and frost bite very likely contributed to her amnesia. How ever, how is it she doesn't remember getting in the van? There was no tragedy at that time. So why can't she remember who drove? Maybe her pain, saddness and guilt is preventing her from all this. People have been known to block out horrible memories for yrs. All 3 were supposidly "feeling good" well I'm sure, it's because they were celebrating!

  • NightAngel

    Now maybe people believe Lisa was sober because she wasn't drinking but she could've had something else in her system. Something that could've slowed her reflexes or reaction time.
    She admitted to having been with Sanj and Michelle for only about an hour prior to leaving. Lisa stated she also believed the van was hit by another vehicle. IS she trying to give a message or is she herslef just looking for answers as well? WHY WHY couldn't the officers have been more diligent and question why Llisa was soaked to the bone and check the canal/river sooner.
    God knows why, there are just so many people hurting wishing this didn't happen.

    • Blah

      ya freakin cocaine…..she was dinking she was charged with a DUI! Com on don't sit there and think I believe for one second she had no idea what happened….maybe the first few hours okay…..But to tell the cops she was beat up….I mean why lie? She knew she was going to be in trouble!!!!! and she deserves to go to JAIL!!!

  • Guest

    People in accidents sometimes do not remember what happened prior to the accident. This could be minutes or even an hour before. When my sister was hit by a man blowing a red light at 75 miles an hour, the last thing she remembered was getting ready to leave the house for work. Her body was in shock even though she was communicating with authorities. When you are hit like that there is a lot of confusion and disorientation. I find it hard to believe that this girl is covering up something. My sister still doesn't remember getting hit, leaving the house, or being rescued from her car. She remembers waking up in a helicopter that was airlifting her to Chicago….Even though everyones stated she was "talking" in the ambulance, at the scene, and at the first hospital.

  • Guest

    How dare you people criticize and judge!!
    Were you there with them??? Probably not
    Did you witness what happened??? Probably not
    Did another driver run them off? Were they being followed and panicked? If you were not there to witness what happened, keep your comments to yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!
    Let Sandra & Michelle RIP, their families grieve and hope Lisa is on the road to recovery!

    • Blah

      The questions we have is not so much the accident….It was an ACCIDENT I believe that….What we can't wrap our heads around is why Lisa would Lie and tell the cops she got beat up and not mention the crash!!!

      • Guest

        Having fallen asleep at he wheel TEN years ago…..I still don't remember everything.
        Cops ordered hospital to take all drug tests……came back clean.
        I'm not saying they weren't drinking and other things, but the memory thing is a possibility

  • justice

    So if the van did not belong to the "driver lisa" who did the van belong to? This is such a tragedy, but I am sure the family's want to know what the heck happened. With all the gang violence going on is it possible, they were being chased or even shot at? Why would these well established family oriented ladies, hang out with anyone from a gang. Childhood friends or not, it is dangerous territory. Yesterday sandra was layed to rest and this morning Michelle will be layed to rest, knowing Michelle's parent, they are going to want answers and the person responsible to be held responsible. Whether they were drinking, drugs or cut the can off, or what ever, someone made a bad decision and two women are now gone. Whether it be Lisa or a distraction, or another car. If it turns out that one of the women were driving then it will at least give them peice of mind.

  • Anonymous ·

    There is alot of who what when where why but I dont think anyone should judge anyone however that is what this world does every day. Just because they dont do something another person does they think they are better. NOONE is better than anyone. Compare yourself to God and then see where you stand. The only people who have any say is the family of Sandra and Michelle and Lisa herself. No matter what happened she is the one who doesnt have memory now but when she does I wouldnt wish that I my worst enemy. To relive that night for the rest of her life, thats horrible. She is and will continue to go through physical plus emotional pain for the rest of her life knowing her friends are gone and Im not saying becuase I think she had anything to do with it, I dont know therefore I place no judgement on her ever.. I wish her the best during her recovery both now and in the future. For the familes of Sandra and Michelle I have no words, my heart goes out to each and everyone.

  • Scared girl

    This story is being investigated, we are all entitled to our opinions but to put blame on anyone is reprehensible. Bottom line is 2 girls are dead and the 3rd girl survived but will never be the same. All were consenting adults, although drunk, it was simply a tragic accident. Even the lone survivor will forever suffer, I know her personally and she is not the same person anymore. I hope this accident saves lives and opens our eyes because most people have driven under the influence including me. I know I never will again.

  • I want ans's!

    I can see how people would think Lisa is the blame, doesnt really matter who was driving at this point, however Lisa woke up from this tragedy & she had to have seen her friends & the van, so y didnt she tell the cops wen they found her? I heard she told the cops she wasnt even with Michelle or Sandra, thats y people are blaming her because she was with them & left them behind, maybe because she was the driver & caused the accident, who knows but that is a lil strange that she had no head injuries & cant remember, dont u think?

    • friend

      It's not strange she can't remember. Manslaughter, Vehicular Homicide. Those are pretty good reasons not to remember. And 2 counts at that. I don't think this was her fault at all, and I believe that it was a terrible accident, but cops and states attrnys. don't see it that way. if someone was driving under the influence they are culpable according to the police. And they will charge that person. I know that they were all friends and all of them chose to get in the car, but again the cops need someone to charge. That is why the girls story changed so many times. I feel bad for everyone involved and it is heartbreaking.

  • justice

    Interesting enough, a relative of Lisa's is a part of a police department which make sence why this is all being covered up with the "I wasnt with anyone, I cant remember". The families deserve answers, please please lisa fess up and tell them what happened, if it comes out later you could be in worse trouble. There are other people investigating and the truth will come out.

    • Not Your Place

      How do you think you would feel if you were in a 4000 pound vehicle that fell 50 feet? Do you think it is possible that you would suffer from amnesia or become disoriented… that's if you survived? You clearly have no idea what happens to the brain after it suffers severe trauma. I know everyone is looking for answers, but let this poor girl recover. Hopefully, things will come back to her and she'll be able to provide some answers.

  • Marc Becerra

    Gonna miss u michelle. Your lovin cuzn. All u people with ignorant comments go to hell. Many tears wereshed and youll b missed by many. I love you,you were took too early

  • friend

    It's not strange she can't remember. Manslaughter, Vehicular Homicide. Those are pretty good reasons not to remember. And 2 counts at that. I don't think this was her fault at all, and I believe that it was a terrible accident, but cops and states attrnys. don't see it that way. if someone was driving under the influence they are culpable according to the police. And they will charge that person. I know that they were all friends and all of them chose to get in the car, but again the cops need someone to charge. That is why the girls story changed so many times. I feel bad for everyone involved and it is heartbreaking.

    • GUEST

      No. Your right as an adult . If you are under the influence and decide to be driver you are taking whoever else in the vihicles lives in your hands and if this happens , well than you will suffer the consequences … this is why parentsd should teach thier children well and instill values and fear as to what can happen in amny situations if drinking and driving .. I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THERE ARE NO ANSWERS YET.. THE POLICE BY INVESTIGATING THE SCENE HAVE TO KNOW WHO WAS WHERE ND DETERMINED WHAT THE BASICS ARE .. SO SOMETHINGS FISHY THAT NOONE HAS SAID A THING .

    • justice

      Lisa Kral and Lisa Elner are the same person! just so everyone knows…I drove past the site today, they had to hit that high curb at a high rate of speed and flipped that van thru that rail. there is no way they went over the curb it is a high profile curb probably close to 8-10 inches high.

    • Bystander

      So they were on to their third bar of the night and being followed by rival gang members! Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

      • wisconsin

        totally agree w/ you. feel horrible for the kids and families but you do not put yourself in situations like that when you have 4 kids to take care of.

  • Sherlock

    Odds are they're running blood samples found in the car to match it to Lisa's. thall take time. They'll never be able to prove she was driving. I doubt solid finger prints were on the steering wheel.

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